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for me Dukan has nothing to do with alternative medicine …

1. Nutrition is
a field of alternative medicine, but there are many others ….. aromatherapy, herbal medicine, Bach flowers, various techniques massage, traditional Chinese medicine, Feldenkrais, naturopathy … etc etc.

2. Nutrition is one of the pillars of naturopathy, but reducing it to Dukan is wrong! Even fake arch!

– on the one hand, in alternative therapies, the treatment is adapted to the client … the treatment will be personalized … which is not the case with Dukan, where it is only the same method for all..

– in naturopathy there are several directions of “diets”: vegetarian, vegan, ayurveda, macrobiotic, organic food, “normal” etc. etc.

High protein diets are not necessarily recommended, because they can be bad for the kidneys ….

I am a naturopath and work with alternative medicines, but I am absolutely not for Dukan …. The best thing to do is to have a balanced diet (of everything, in reasonable quantities), to move and get enough sleep, to drink enough …

Besides, I’m not even sure Dukan has any training in alternative therapies … I only found information on the net about his medical studies …

Moreover, from what I have read Dukan would have prescribed a mediator to his patients …. the mediator has nothing to do with alternative medicine …

So reduce alternative therapies to Dukan and his diet : no! no! I do not agree…

I do not see where it is said in my remarks where the sites cited that alternative medicines are reduced to the Dukan method to lose weight
The controversy is more on the denigration of alternative medicines in general compared to official medicine, concerning questionable prejudices . . .
Which in my opinion are doubtful in both directions, the pharmaceutical lobbies on the one hand with a certain demonization of everything that is outside of official medicine and on the other hand a risk that should not be denied either. concerning charlatanism and of which the medical order has the responsibility to watch with the greatest rigor. . .  

no you did not say it, but your message as you posted it was not very clear either … you put as title “the reliability of alternative medicines” and just a link leading to an article dealing with the Dukan controversy …. it doesn’t say anything about your own position … and I wondered who is behind this post? Someone who is for alternative medicine or someone who is against?  

but can Dukan really be classified as an alternative medicine? I am not very sure …. in any case I did not find anything that indicates that he studied naturopathy, phyto, aroma or other …

but this demonization goes both ways … there are also a lot of alternative medicine practitioners who only see the “wicked and abominable” pharmaceutical industry on one side and soft “nice medicine” on the other. .

this risk does exist … in Switzerland the response has been to better structure this area … and it is not only charlatanism that is a problem, but also the lack of training … of people who think that ‘you can become a naturopath or an aromatherapist in 1 weekend …

Neither for nor against, I am someone who informs himself and who discusses by exchanging, this is why my subject is with a question mark and that I quoted this site because I received it by enamel, which I find it interesting, several people in my family follow this “Dukan” method with results, that this method is well on the margins with what is associated with it on this site with alternative medicine (alternative medicine, naturopathy, ect …)
and that there is a divergence and conflict of opinions and beliefs between official medicine and alternative medicine. The pros and cons as they say.
And the interest of the debate is not for me to agree more with one than the other but to know and know this for and against to see clearly on this subject because I don’t like the dark , it makes me sick since I was little (I’m 65)

I don’t know, that’s what I’m saying above, but the dukan method for example concerns food and naturopathy associated with alternative medicine has a lot to do to my knowledge with food and drugs (food supplements)  

This is exactly my point . . .  

From what I’ve heard, this is indeed a problem in France. . .
Or in my opinion there may be some excellent alternative medicine therapists who can be helpful for a lot of people who are in pain and are uninformed, but the lack of “structures” in this area as you say make the “layman” can not know or guess between what is good or correct and what is bad and is charlatanism, abuse for profit, money, sectarian manipulation ect . . .

I don’t know, that’s what I’m saying above, but the dukan method for example concerns food and naturopathy associated with alternative medicine has a lot to do to my knowledge with food and drugs (food supplements)  

yes food is one of the pillars of naturopathy (let your food be your medicine, said Hippocrates), but that does not mean that everything that has to do with food is part of alternative medicine for a long time yet … Weight Watchers is also food and yet it has nothing to do with alternative medicine … and for me Dukan does not meet certain criteria of alternative medicine:

– to begin with he prescribed supermediator as a substitute appetite suppressant … it’s not really an alternative

– in the field of alternative medicine there is a global and personalized care …. I do not believe that this is the case with Dukan … at Dukan it is a high protein diet and the proteins do not not necessarily suitable for everyone … except a naturopath will adapt the diet to his clients and their problems …

– high protein diets are far from unanimous in the field of alternative therapies … because they can be bad for the kidneys (and even “Normal” medicine admits it)

Dukan, it was so bad in his ass, he asked to be removed from the Order of Physicians !!!

On the other hand, eating high protein acidifies the blood, resulting in a loss of minerals, such as calcium, potassium, magnesium, etc.

Eating healthy and balanced is much better than a “diet” or a “method. “…

Attached is the ANSES report on diet and other consequences:

http://www.anses.fr/cgi-bin/co untdocs.cgi? Documents / NUT2009s a0099Ra.pdf

Very fair .. I had a friend who had joint problems … The first thing I asked her was her meat consumption: twice a day! I told her to switch to 2-3 times a week which largely solved the problem.

Moreover in naturopathy we talk about food hygiene and not diet.

I’m not a great connoisseur of Dukan, but at first glance it has absolutely nothing to do with alternative therapies.

We can also eat vegetable proteins  
 !!!

Dukan also made a big mistake, that is to make Medicine a business
…

Now, even if he keeps the title of Doctor of Medicine, he no longer has the right to practice, and his advice does not will not be worth more than those of Rika Zarai
, a bit like before, moreover
…
!!!

It is an opinion which like any belief has its argumentation and the opposite opinion for one who has the opposite belief with the appropriate argumentation. . .  


The point is that the dukan diet works for some people, I have an obvious example in my immediate circle. . .

As I have osteoarthritis and as Lomi Lomi says meat is not suitable for joint health, the Dukan diet may be valid for weight loss but certainly not for joint problems, I am all for it. Okay . . .  

Otherwise, I made the connection between Dukan and alternative medicines in my remarks because the sites mentioned speak of Dukan but also of alternative medicine including naturopathy among other alternative medicines and that Dukan as also certain methods and practices of medicines alternatives are criticized by the followers of “ya what is proven and formalized as scientifically valid and correct” and “the others” to put on the shelves of charlatans and crooks  
 . . .

But I want to believe that the Dukan method is not to be put in the radius of alternative medicine, am not a specialist in the definitions of this term, to tell the truth, I do not care royally, that is not what m ‘interresse. . .

What seems more interesting to me is to have information and testimonials to shed light on what works and what does not, in short as said previously the pros and cons, to be able to form an opinion on the as close as possible to reality, to be useful with objectivity, even if this term “objective” is not absolute in this field, it is like religion, it is not mathematics. . .  

We can also eat vegetable proteins  
 !!!

 certainly … But when you have someone who eats meat twice a day, it is already a huge progress to manage to reduce to 2-3 times a week … I do not expect anyone that he completely renounces meat, we must respect personal freedom … I hardly eat meat, because I do not agree with the way slaughter animals are treated and that I can’t imagine that animals have to die for me to have my meat … But that’s me, I don’t expect anyone to do the same …

I was talking about vegetable proteins in addition to animals  
 !!!

We also kill animals to make boxes of food for pets
…

30% of the fish caught are
used to make flour to feed farmed fish
…

I was talking about vegetable proteins in addition to animals  
 !!!

We also kill animals to make boxes of food for pets
…

30% of the fish caught are
used to make flour to feed farmed fish
…

it’s clear … but in life you sometimes have to make compromises … but a cat is not vegetarian by nature … while I can easily do without meat …